I found both speakers to be quite good and well informed--from their own respective points of view. Both Edie and John did a bit of eye-rolling, and posturing; however, ignoring that, it's still a hugely complex issue. "Obamacare" will, in my opinion, never stand as it is; however, it also will not be completely eliminated. HHS Sec. Sebelius has stated the insurance companies, "....ran wild with no accountability..." and, to put it politely, that's perjury. If she thinks that's true then she must believe that the insurance commissioners in every one of the 50 states is totally incompetent. Additionally, such little, upstart companies such as AT&T, Caterpillar, and McDonald's have both told the feds and provided them with documentation that the health-reform law is prohibitively expensive and will increase, not decrease health insurance costs. Regardless of how one feels about Amendment 63, the federal law must be amended sooner rather than later to keep from bringing on potentially catastrophic consequences. John was right when he said that if you believe that the organization that brought you Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and the USPS then you'll love this health care boondoggle.